Johann Nikolas Baumann

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I need help with a translation of link please: http://www.archion.de/p/e06c22b967/ I think it is an index to births what does the 41 mean that he was born in 1841 in Nassig or is it a page number.
I can't find the birth entry as I do not read old German Script.

Many thanks for any assistance,

Elizabeth

In Australia
 
Hi Elizabeth,

this is a "Mischbuch" - a mixed book. It begins with christenings, followed by marriages from *image* 105 on (*page* 203). Image 141 (*page 361*) is the first page with burials, image 219 the first page of indexes.
There seem to be blank pages left out between marriages and burials, the page count jumps from 311 to 361.

In the index, the numbers given are page numbers - you can see at the top the abbreviation "Pag." meaning (latin) pagina = page. The first column tells the page number in the register of christenings, the second the page in marriages, the last column the page in burials.

There are only three entries on page 41 - keep on trying! I have made some experience in reading the old script, but this is (for me) in fact difficult. Small handwriting, very oblique (correct term???), weathered paper.
It might help to see that the entries follow a scheme and that the wording is always similar. The first entry begins with "Den siebenten Mai ist abends um 6 Uhr geboren zu Nassig und heute nachmittags um 4 Uhr in der Kirche getauft worden".

Good luck!
Susanne
 
Hi Elizabeth,
The entry you´re looking for is the bottom one on page 41, being continued on page 42:
Den drei und zwanzigsten Juni ist Nachmitternacht nach (?) 4 Uhr zu Sonderrieth geboren und heute Nachmittag nach 5 Uhr in der hiesigen Kirche getauft worden Johann Nikolaus, des Ezechiel Baumann Gemeindemanns (?)und B(r)auers (?) daselbst und deßen Ehefrau Elisabetha Catharina, eine geborene S...gin ? von da, ehelicher Sohn deßen Pathe ist Johann Nikolaus Dosch, ehelich lediger Sohn des Johann Nikolaus Doschen, Gemeindemanns und Bauern in Sonderrieth, welcher letztere nebst dem Johann Michael S...g ?, Bauer und Bürger allda, dieses bezeugte. Nassig den 23ten Juni 1829.
+ 1. März 1906
Born on June 23 past 4 after midnight at Sonderrieth and baptized this afternoon past 5 in the local church (at Nassig): Johann Nikolaus, son of Ezechiel Baumann parish man and farmer (or brewer) and his wife Elisabetha Catharina née S...gin ? from here. His godfather is Johann Nikolaus Dosch, legitimate, unmarried son of Johann Nikolaus Dosch, parish man and farmer at Sonderrieth, which latter, together with Johann Michael S...g (same name as Elisabetha Catharina´s maiden name), farmer and citizen, bore witness to this. Nassig, June 23, 1829
Hope this will help.
Regards,
Angelika
 
Hi Elizabeth,
I think what I saw as a 'g' in the mother´s maiden name wasn´t a 'g' after all. I´m quite sure her name was Spatz(in) and one of the witnesses was Johann Michael Spatz.
Regards,
Angelika
 
AngSchwaKa schrieb:
Hi Elizabeth,
The entry you´re looking for is the bottom one on page 41, being continued on page 42:
Den drei und zwanzigsten Juni ist Nachmitternacht nach (?) 4 Uhr zu Sonderrieth geboren und heute Nachmittag nach 5 Uhr in der hiesigen Kirche getauft worden Johann Nikolaus, des Ezechiel Baumann Gemeindemanns (?)und B(r)auers (?) daselbst und deßen Ehefrau Elisabetha Catharina, eine geborene S...gin ? von da, ehelicher Sohn deßen Pathe ist Johann Nikolaus Dosch, ehelich lediger Sohn des Johann Nikolaus Doschen, Gemeindemanns und Bauern in Sonderrieth, welcher letztere nebst dem Johann Michael S...g ?, Bauer und Bürger allda, dieses bezeugte. Nassig den 23ten Juni 1829.
+ 1. März 1906
Born on June 23 past 4 after midnight at Sonderrieth and baptized this afternoon past 5 in the local church (at Nassig): Johann Nikolaus, son of Ezechiel Baumann parish man and farmer (or brewer) and his wife Elisabetha Catharina née S...gin ? from here. His godfather is Johann Nikolaus Dosch, legitimate, unmarried son of Johann Nikolaus Dosch, parish man and farmer at Sonderrieth, which latter, together with Johann Michael S...g (same name as Elisabetha Catharina´s maiden name), farmer and citizen, bore witness to this. Nassig, June 23, 1829
Hope this will help.
Regards,
Angelika
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Thank you Susanne, I am trying to learn and find ancestors in Germany it is very difficult.

Elizabeth

Thank you Angelika for your time and especially for the transcription & translation. I learn a little more each time I research these German records.

It is great that Archion have so many church books online, it makes it easier for everyone to help each other.

Elizabeth
 
Hallo again,

I have found another birth for a Johann Nikolaus Baumann in December 1835 link: http://www.archion.de/p/90fba7a2b7/ Bild 62.page 116.

Could Angelika please translate this entry for me.

After further research the previously translated entry for a Johann Nikolaus Baumann born in 1829 appears to have married and died in Nassig. The person I am looking for migrated to Australia in 1858 married in 1858 in Australia and died in Australia in 1924.

Thank you for any assistance as I am trying to locate the correct birth

Elizabeth

 
Hi Elizabeth,
Den sieben und zwanzigsten Dezember ist abends um 5 Uhr zu Nassig geboren und heute Nachmittag um 4 Uhr im Hause getauft worden Johann Nikolaus, des Georg Michael Baumann, Gemeindemanns, Zehnt...? und Bauers dahier und seiner Ehefrau, Maria Margaretha, einer geborenen Dosch von hier, ehelicher Sohn. Dessen Pathe ist Johann Nikolaus Baumann, ehelich lediger Sohn des hiesigen Gemeindemanns und Bauers Johann Nikolaus Baumann, welcher Letztere nebst dem Schullehrer, Wilhelm S...? allhier, dieses bezeugte. Nassig, 28ten Dezember 1835.
Born at Nassig on December 27, at 5 o´clock p.m., and baptized today at 4 in the house (of his parents): Johann Nikolaus, legitimate son of Georg Michael Baumann, a local parishioner, ...? and farmer, and his wife Maria Margaretha née Dosch from here. His godfather ist Johann Nikolaus Baumann, legitimate, unmarried son of local parishioner and farmer Johann Nikolaus Baumann, which latter, together with William S...?, teacher at the local school, bore witness to this. Nassig, December 28, 1835.

This Johann Nikolaus´ mother died in 1857, his father in 1867, and they got married in 1823.

Regards,
Angelika
 
Hello Angelika,

Thank you so much for this translation I am feeling this is the correct person There were so many Baumann families in Nassig. Thank you for the parents information the dates and events, such good practice for me.

I will continue my research it is the only way I can learn as much as possible from the Archion digitised records available online.

Kindest regards,

Elizabeth
 
Hello Angelika,

I think I have found the marriage of Johann Nikolaus Baumann's parents' in Nassig in 1823. permalink: http://www.archion.de/p/be0d5f1fc2/

Marriage: 1823 George Michael Baumann & Maria Margaretha Dosch Bild 76 p.148 No 4 Could I please ask you again for help with a translation of their marriage.

I am sorry it has taken me so long to find it, I now feel I am making some progress.

Many thanks again for your help,

Elizabeth
 
Hi Elizabeth,
Nr. 4: Den dreizehnten Maj ist vormittags um 11 Uhr in der Kirche zu Nassig nach vorher geschehenem zweimaligen Aufgebot getraut worden Georg Michael Baumann, des hiesigen Gemeindemanns und Zehndinspector? Georg Michael Baumanns und deßen Ehefrau Anna Maria, einer geborenen Schäferin von Dertingen ehelich lediger Sohn, ein Bauer, 34 Jahr alt, mit Maria Margaretha Döschin, des Georg Heinrich Dosch, Gemeindemanns in der unteren Steingasse dahier und deßen Ehefrau Margaretha Barbara, einer geborenen ...? von hier, ehelich ledigen Tochter, 23 1/4tel Jahr alt. Jacob Beck, Schuhmacher und Matthes Beck, Gemeindemann allhier, bezeugten diese Trauung. Nassig, d. 13ten Maj 1823.
No. 4. On May 13, at 11 in the morning, after banns had twice been published, Georg Michael Baumann, a farmer, 34 years old, legitimate and unmarried son of parishioner and tithe inspector (?) Georg Michael Baumann and his wife Anna Maria née Schäferin of Dertingen, and Maria Margaretha Döschin, 23 1/4-years-old, legitimate and unmarried daughter of Georg Heinrich Dosch, parishioner in local Untere Steingasse (street name) and his wife Margaretha Barbara née ...? from here, were married at Nassig church. Shoemaker Jacob Beck and local parishioner Matthes Beck bore witness to this marriage. Nassig, May 13, 1823.
Regards,
Angelika
 
Hi Elizabeth,
I just found the maiden name of Margaretha Barbara: it´s Weimer, and she was born in 1763 on January 4th and died in 1831 on the 20th of November.
They were married on April 5th, 1785.
Regards,
Angelika
 
Hello again,

Thank you for finding the correct name.

Sorry I have not replied before this I will try and find the death entries for Johann Nikolaus Baumann's parents when time permits.

I have just found the death of Johann Nikolaus'son Joseph Anthony Baumann aged only 29 in 1894 in Oakland California USA. A sad loss as all the family remained in Australia. It is not known why Joseph went to the USA.

You have been so helpful,

Elizabeth
 
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