Does anyone know why the years 1738 to 1748 are missing for the marriage, births, deaths, and confirmation sections from this church book? Those years coincide with the tenure of Pastor Friedrich Hieronymus Henzen. The microfilmed pages, while stamped consecutively for the filming, simply skip those years. I suspect that Pastor Henzen died unexpectedly in Sept 1748, but what happened to the records he would have kept during his tenure? I'm interested in those years because Pastor Henzen was my 5x great-grandfather. Thanks for any insight anyone can offer.
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L = Lücke = gap / non-existing records
As you can see there are several gaps in these church registers within births, marriages and deaths.
As to why these gaps exist several reasons may come to mind.
In case you may be interested in some more historical information about the parish Fischbeck please refer to this article
KB Fischbeck
Hallo, es gibt unter Niedersachsen: Landeskirchliches Archiv Hannover - Kirchenkreis Grafschaft Schaumburg - Fischbeck das Kirchenbuch 1606 - 1632. Das ist zwar nicht ganz richtig, da es Trauungen bis 1637, Taufen bis Jan. 1632 und Beerdigungen bis 1629 beinhaltet. - Meine Frage ist aber, wo...
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L = Lücke = gap / non-existing records
As you can see there are several gaps in these church registers within births, marriages and deaths.
As to why these gaps exist several reasons may come to mind.
In case you may be interested in some more historical information about the parish Fischbeck please refer to this article
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In addition….
This source tells, that Pastor Friederich Hieronymus Henze from Ravensberg, who served in Fischbeck for 10 years, himself did not record anything at all within the church registers. Why???? Seems like he didn't have much interest in administrative work involved with running a parish properly.
Church register entries start again when -after his death- his son came into service in Fischbeck.
This source tells, that Pastor Friederich Hieronymus Henze from Ravensberg, who served in Fischbeck for 10 years, himself did not record anything at all within the church registers. Why???? Seems like he didn't have much interest in administrative work involved with running a parish properly.
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Church register entries start again when -after his death- his son came into service in Fischbeck.
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May be this is obsolete since you already know everything, but just in case you would be interested:
Deutsches Geschlechterbuch
Band / Volume 89
[other title / AKA: Niedersaechsisches Geschlechterbuch, Band / Volume 3]
Seite / physical Page #363 [when you view it online it's page # 497 of 952]
contains data for this ecclesiastic family Henze / Hentze serving in Fischbeck
[The entire book is here - also available for download]
[This is the "Henze" page]
Deutsches Geschlechterbuch
Band / Volume 89
[other title / AKA: Niedersaechsisches Geschlechterbuch, Band / Volume 3]
Seite / physical Page #363 [when you view it online it's page # 497 of 952]
contains data for this ecclesiastic family Henze / Hentze serving in Fischbeck
[The entire book is here - also available for download]
[This is the "Henze" page]
Vnagels004,
Thank you so much for the information. I was getting a lot of information from family trees that did not have source verification for the information they presented. I was starting to find some of it, but your references are very helpful in documenting the family line from printed sources.
It's too bad that Pastor Hentzen apparently did not understand the importance of keeping the administrative records as part of properly running a parish. I was hoping to find the 1739 or 1740 confirmation record for Friedrich's third son, Johan Wilhelm (my 4th great-grandfather) to tie him to his father and to verify that Wilhelm was in fact Friedrich's son, as all the family trees claim. His christening record is probably on one of the torn pages missing from the Alechriede at Onasbruck church book and no other record I've found for him mentions his father (Wilhelm moved to Denmark probably in the 1780s). So, the search goes on.
Thank you again for your help. Have a good day!
Thank you so much for the information. I was getting a lot of information from family trees that did not have source verification for the information they presented. I was starting to find some of it, but your references are very helpful in documenting the family line from printed sources.
It's too bad that Pastor Hentzen apparently did not understand the importance of keeping the administrative records as part of properly running a parish. I was hoping to find the 1739 or 1740 confirmation record for Friedrich's third son, Johan Wilhelm (my 4th great-grandfather) to tie him to his father and to verify that Wilhelm was in fact Friedrich's son, as all the family trees claim. His christening record is probably on one of the torn pages missing from the Alechriede at Onasbruck church book and no other record I've found for him mentions his father (Wilhelm moved to Denmark probably in the 1780s). So, the search goes on.
Thank you again for your help. Have a good day!
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vnagel2004
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Do you already have this on from 1734
www.archion.de
After Friedrich Hieronymus Henze / Hentze left Achelriede / Bissendorf, he served as Pastor and Stifts-Sekretarius in Minden, Sankt Marien Kirche.
Or this one from 1736
www.archion.de
Meantime I had a look at several of those family trees to which you refer and sorry to say so: "There's a lot of unproven stuff and -sorry for my harsh words- nonsense out there."
Greetings, Vera
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After Friedrich Hieronymus Henze / Hentze left Achelriede / Bissendorf, he served as Pastor and Stifts-Sekretarius in Minden, Sankt Marien Kirche.
Or this one from 1736
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Meantime I had a look at several of those family trees to which you refer and sorry to say so: "There's a lot of unproven stuff and -sorry for my harsh words- nonsense out there."
Greetings, Vera
Vera,
I completely agree about the unproven information on those family trees and that some of it is nonsense. That's why I've been searching for primary source or good secondary source documentation. My background is library science, research, and records management, so, to me, documentation is very important to substantiate the information. I admit that it's challenging looking at church book records written in languages I don't know with the 18th century script, and (frankly) often bad handwriting , but the names and dates are usually recognizable.
Thank you again for your help. I have been trying to find out where Pastor Henzen served in between his tenures as Alcheriede and Fischbeck. I had come across the Hannover Parish History earlier and found the pastor list at the Alcheriede page listing him as serving from 1718 -1731. The title page of the Fischbeck church book (1677-1777) lists Pastor Henzen as serving there for 10 years or from 1738-1748. So, I really appreciate learning where he served from 1731 to 1738. I might now be able to find his youngest daughter's birth record, probably in 1736 (Maria was confirmed in 1750, as noted by her brother Daniel in the Fischbeck church record).
I'm still on the search for a documented connection between Johan Wilhelm and Pastor Hentzen because that's the connection between my mother's family line and the Hentzen family line. His 1750 marriage record to Mette Magdalene Asmussen at Gelting, Schleswig, doesn't list his father either. I haven't found his second marriage record to Mette Christiansdatter yet, although that might be in the Danish records. Wilhelm re-married in his early 60s and had a second family of six children in Denmark. It's the names of his children that indicate a connection: Heinrich Hieronymus, Friedrich Christian, Daniel Christian, Elsabeth Magdalene, Jens Christian, and Sophia Maria. However, I'd still like to find some written documentation backing up the connection.
My mother's family did a lot of genealogical research but never traced this line past Johan Wilhelm Hentzen probably because they could not find any more records for him in Denmark, not having access at the time to the Danish censuses. My mother's line is Danish/Swedish (or so they thought) while my father was a first generation German (his parents immigrated as children with their respective families in the mid-1890s from Poznan and Volynia. Although I've traced the Poznan records as far back as I can go online, I don't know where the families came from in Germany originally or when they left as colonists.).
I hope that you don't mind my going on about my research and family. If you do, let me know and I'll stop. I just find genealogical research and the resulting stories so interesting.
Thanks again,
Dori
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Dori,
you're very welcome.
The title page says that he served in Fischbeck for 10 years and 8 months.
With regard to his children including Maria Friederica, plus a younger brother which no one so far has > please check the permalinks to Archion records which I already provided.
I've some other secondary sources available regarding Friedrich Hieronymus Henze/Hentze.
In case you may be interested please feel free to let me know.
Greetings,
Vera